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Edinburgh - Thomas Thomson and Margaret Baxter Robertson
« on: Wednesday 21 June 23 23:38 BST (UK) »
Hi

I have a Thomas Thomson (1794-1863) - a Baker in Edinburgh that married Margaret Baxter Robertson (1802-1859) in Edinburgh 12/02/1822

I don't know who Thomas's parents were

Margaret was the daughter of William Robertson and Janet Baxter (1722-1823)
I don't know where the Robertson and Baxter families came from

Also don't know whether either Thomas or Margaret had any siblings
I only know of the one child, Margaret Robertson Thomson (1802-1859) married David Dunn (1830-1864)
30 of 32 paternal 4th great-grand-parents: b1749-1793

Dunn / Clark m Smith / Guthrie -- Thomson / Scott m Robertson / Baxter
Ballantyne / Watson m Tait / Kyle -- King / Hall m Norman / Browne

Candy / Harding m Boyce / Jacob -- Woodland / Holland m Law / Stedman
Johnston / Taylor m Robertson / Spence -- Ferguson / ? m Lister / ?

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Re: Edinburgh - Thomas Thomson and Margaret Baxter Robertson
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 22 June 23 00:58 BST (UK) »
If he died in Scotland you can download a copy of his death cert which should show both parents names plus his mothers maiden name

www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

The only Thomas Thomson death in 1863 fitting a 1794 birthyear was in Govan - mothers maiden name Scott
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Re: Edinburgh - Thomas Thomson and Margaret Baxter Robertson
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 22 June 23 01:07 BST (UK) »
Is he the 1851 entry b Athelstaneford?  If so there is a birth on SP showing he was b 17.12.1795 parents George & Janet nee Scott

The 1851 shows him as a spirit merchant & contracter - not a baker

Best to download his death cert first
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Re: Edinburgh - Thomas Thomson and Margaret Baxter Robertson
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 22 June 23 02:40 BST (UK) »
1841 census Thomas Thomson
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/5a152187f4040b9d6e2e2666/thomas-thomson-1841-midlothian-canongate-1796-?locale=en

1851 census Thomas Thomson
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/5903dafde9379091b102bf62/thomas-thomson-1851-midlothian-canongate-1796-?locale=en

1861 census Thomas Thomson age 67 (retired contractor) is living with the family of his daughter Janet BOW.

Janet Baxter Thomson (daughter of Thomas Thomson and Margaret Robertson)
-   Baptism 29 June 1825 Canongate / Edinburgh
-   married James Bow in Edinburgh on 16 Aug 1847
-   died (age 88) in 1914 - Biggar
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
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Re: Edinburgh - Thomas Thomson and Margaret Baxter Robertson
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 22 June 23 02:56 BST (UK) »
Baptisms for children of William ROBERTSON and Janet BAXTER in Canongate
-   Margarate 5 March 1796
-   Christian 25 March 1798
-   George 10 May 1800

24 April 1795 St Cuthberts
The marriage of William ROBERTSON to Janet BAXTER or WHILLES
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
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Re: Edinburgh - Thomas Thomson and Margaret Baxter Robertson
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 22 June 23 03:13 BST (UK) »
Is he the 1851 entry b Athelstaneford?  If so there is a birth on SP showing he was b 17.12.1795 parents George & Janet nee Scott
Best to download his death cert first

Marriage of George THOMSON and Janet SCOTT
2 Feb 1787. Banns read in Edinburgh and ATHELSTANEFORD
Edinburgh:
“George Thomson weaver New North Kirk Parish and Janet Scott New Gray Friars parish daughter of John Scott Day labourer in the parish of Cranston.”


Baptisms for children of George THOMSON and Janet SCOTT in ATHELSTANEFORD
- Alexander 27 July 1788
- Janet 25 July 1790
- Thomas 13 Dec 1795
- Elizabeth 25 Feb 1798
- William 12 Feb 1802
- Marion 20 Jan 1805
- George 18 Feb 1810
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Edinburgh - Thomas Thomson and Margaret Baxter Robertson
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 22 June 23 04:09 BST (UK) »

Margaret was the daughter of William Robertson and Janet Baxter (1722-1823)
Janet Baxter was aged 53 on her death in 1823. So born around 1770  and not 1722.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Edinburgh - Thomas Thomson and Margaret Baxter Robertson
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 22 June 23 15:57 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the responses - most of the core details that I have come from the grave stone of Thomas Thomson's mother in law, Janet Baxter d1823 in Canongate churchyard, Edinburgh

It has Thomas' date of death as 28 May 1863 at the age of 69 ... a dob of 17 Dec 1795 could be possible though that would put him at 67 when he died. The stone was erected by Thomas Thomson, maybe when Janet died or later when his wife Margaret died, in 1859

"Erected by Thomas Thomson Baker Edin"

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/121686933/david-dunn

30 of 32 paternal 4th great-grand-parents: b1749-1793

Dunn / Clark m Smith / Guthrie -- Thomson / Scott m Robertson / Baxter
Ballantyne / Watson m Tait / Kyle -- King / Hall m Norman / Browne

Candy / Harding m Boyce / Jacob -- Woodland / Holland m Law / Stedman
Johnston / Taylor m Robertson / Spence -- Ferguson / ? m Lister / ?

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Re: Edinburgh - Thomas Thomson and Margaret Baxter Robertson
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 22 June 23 16:10 BST (UK) »
1861 census Thomas Thomson age 67 (retired contractor) is living with the family of his daughter Janet BOW.

That's brilliant ... the family has been puzzling for ages why David's son was named James Bow Dunn

It's seems an odd and confusing tradition to include the married surname of Aunts in the children's names ... I've seen that on other family lines too


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Janet Baxter was aged 53 on her death in 1823. So born around 1770  and not 1722

I think I did a typo as I had 1772 noted down  ::)
30 of 32 paternal 4th great-grand-parents: b1749-1793

Dunn / Clark m Smith / Guthrie -- Thomson / Scott m Robertson / Baxter
Ballantyne / Watson m Tait / Kyle -- King / Hall m Norman / Browne

Candy / Harding m Boyce / Jacob -- Woodland / Holland m Law / Stedman
Johnston / Taylor m Robertson / Spence -- Ferguson / ? m Lister / ?