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Irish Police Force, New Inn, Tipperary 1834
« on: Thursday 28 December 23 14:35 GMT (UK) »
I have a reference to the Irish Police force of 1833/34 policing in the area of New Inn, Tipperary, under the command of Edward Morton Sergeant in the Irish Constabulary. the reference appears in the Conmel Herald where he is mentioned in the investigations of several incidences, where the Police Office at New Inn seems to be the local HQ in 1833/34. Does anyone have access to records of his service to assist me please.
Morton - Tipperary, Longford/Clonmel Ireland
Gallatley - Ireland,
Brownbill - Liverpool, Prescot
Burberry - Dorking
Bonnyman - Elgin/Buckie/St Albans

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Re: Irish Police Force, New Inn, Tipperary 1834
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 28 December 23 16:40 GMT (UK) »

You've posted in IRELAND RESOURCES which is for resources not queries.

I have asked a moderator to move your request to the Ireland General board where you might find an answer.

If you feel that this thread should go on a County sub-board, just click on 'Report to moderator' and ask for it to be moved.

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Re: Irish Police Force, New Inn, Tipperary 1834
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 28 December 23 20:18 GMT (UK) »
Thanks, Kiltaglassan, Apologies

Moderator comment: now relocated  :)
Morton - Tipperary, Longford/Clonmel Ireland
Gallatley - Ireland,
Brownbill - Liverpool, Prescot
Burberry - Dorking
Bonnyman - Elgin/Buckie/St Albans

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Re: Irish Police Force, New Inn, Tipperary 1834
« Reply #3 on: Friday 29 December 23 13:45 GMT (UK) »

The service records for the Royal Irish Constabulary (and its forerunner the Irish Constabulary) from 1816 to 1922 are on subscription websites Ancestry and FindMyPast. Records can be searched free but a subscription must be purchased to view and save them.

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Ireland, The Royal Irish Constabulary 1816-1921            
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/6087/

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Ireland, Royal Irish Constabulary Service Records 1816-1922
https://search.findmypast.co.uk/search-world-records/ireland-royal-irish-constabulary-service-records-1816-1922


For Edward Morton, here are his potential service numbers (via FindMyPast)-

First name(s)        Last name   Event year      Service number        Place       Document type
Edwd                     Morton             1816                   30167                       —                General Register - Index, Vol 1
Edwd                     Morton             1816                   14025                       —                General Register - Index, Vol 1
Researching: Cuthbertson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Australia; Hunter – Co. Derry; Jackson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Canada; Scott – Co. Derry; Neilly – Co. Antrim & USA; McCurdy – Co. Antrim; Nixon – Co. Cavan, Co. Donegal, Canada & USA; Ryan & Noble – Co. Sligo


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Re: Irish Police Force, New Inn, Tipperary 1834
« Reply #4 on: Friday 29 December 23 13:59 GMT (UK) »

The FindMyPast index transcriptions are quite misleading. The registers reveal that 30167 Edwd Morton was aged 20 in 1850, and 14025 Edwd Morton was aged 19 in 1865.
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Re: Irish Police Force, New Inn, Tipperary 1834
« Reply #5 on: Friday 29 December 23 14:07 GMT (UK) »
Hi. Thanks for the info re Edward Morton. I asked an expert about His records and i was advised there was no such person of the dates you kindly forwarded. It now gives some credence to Johnston, his sons statement on his last marriage cert that his father was a sergeant in the Irish constabulary. Thanks
Morton - Tipperary, Longford/Clonmel Ireland
Gallatley - Ireland,
Brownbill - Liverpool, Prescot
Burberry - Dorking
Bonnyman - Elgin/Buckie/St Albans

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Re: Irish Police Force, New Inn, Tipperary 1834
« Reply #6 on: Friday 29 December 23 14:21 GMT (UK) »
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I asked an expert about His records and i was advised there was no such person of the dates you kindly forwarded

I think he was right. I can't see anything either.
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Re: Irish Police Force, New Inn, Tipperary 1834
« Reply #7 on: Friday 29 December 23 14:36 GMT (UK) »
True there are no records in the files but the newspaper reports mention him so presumably he existed but perhaps the files don’t.
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Re: Irish Police Force, New Inn, Tipperary 1834
« Reply #8 on: Friday 29 December 23 14:54 GMT (UK) »
[I received thi earlier which does show an Edward Morton I don’t have a FindMyPast subscription can’t doubt the info, quote author=ShaunJ link=topic=879040.msg7512680#msg7512680 date=1703859705]
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I asked an expert about His records and i was advised there was no such person of the dates you kindly forwarded

I think he was right. I can't see anything either. reland, Royal Irish Constabulary Service Records 1816-1922
https://search.findmypast.co.uk/search-world-records/ireland-royal-irish-constabulary-service-records-1816-1922


For Edward Morton, here are his potential service numbers (via FindMyPast)-

First name(s)        Last name   Event year      Service number        Place       Document type
Edwd                     Morton             1816                   30167                       —                General Register - Index, Vol 1
Edwd                     Morton             1816                   14025                       —                General Register - Index, Vol 1
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Morton - Tipperary, Longford/Clonmel Ireland
Gallatley - Ireland,
Brownbill - Liverpool, Prescot
Burberry - Dorking
Bonnyman - Elgin/Buckie/St Albans