Katherine Alice GREENLEES nee MURRAY

[Neale1961]

There is a family tree on Ancestry – looks to be fairly well researched and has the following (briefly) …..
John MURRAY born abt 1809 Cork religion Roman Catholic – transported for stealing – arrived in 1829 – married Catherine Crompton 1830, - seven children (Richard was the first born)

Catherine CROMPTON born abt 1803 Dublin. Arrived in 1823 per “Woodman”. Married William Silk in Sydney in 1824 – three children; Married John Murray in 1830

[haney]

Hi Yes I had made the mistake that thinking that the insolvency cases were related to an "intestate" situation.  That is why I thought his death was in 1858 and confused it with the death of his son.

I think I have my head around it now and come to the same conclusion you have.

He was a cricketer apparently, died 1861 with that great headstone.  Yes the story is coming together now, thanks so much.  Dianna

[haney]

That's great you found the family and the details.  I was wondering when the "convicts" were going to pop up. Fantastic.  Thanks

[haney]

It all adds up by the looks of it!!

[Neale1961]

From the Colonial Secretary’s papers
Permission to marry in the Roman Catholic church 1824
Catherine CROMPTON (Crampton?) convict per “Woodman” 1823
William SILK convict per “Dorothy” 1820

Children:  William Silk 1825; John William Silk 1826; Henry Silk 1828

I don’t know what happened to the marriage, but William Silk received his conditional pardon in 1847, but Catherine seems to have been with John Murray from about 1831 which is when Richard was born.


Catherine Silk 1832
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/252650108?searchTerm=%22Catherine%20Silk%22

Sydney gaol book Sept 1837
Catherine Silk “Woodman 1822” Catholic, born Dublin, servant
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/12856685?searchTerm=%22Catherine%20Silk%22


24 Dec 1842 (trial 7th Feb)
Catherine Silk alias Murray per “Woodman” received 6 mnths hard labour for larceny. She pled guilty.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/12420511?searchTerm=%22Catherine%20Silk%22


Index to Criminal cases
Catherine Silk, alias Murray. Per “Woodman”
Sydney 7 Feb 1843
Don’t know yet what the crime was here?

[Neale1961]

John MURRAY
Arrived 1818 per “Mary 1”. Conviction (age 16) for vagrancy in Cork. Sentence 7 years

Certificate of Freedom 10 March 1825
Native Place – Cork; labourer, age 22
5 feet ½ inch height; ruddy complexion; hair brown; eyes blue

[Neale1961]

Richard Murray the cricketer …. he was a left-hander
https://www.espncricinfo.com/cricketers/richard-murray-6674

[haney]

Thanks so much for all of that information.  That is a fun fact him being a left hander! LOL Something different for the family tree.  Regards Dianna

[Neale1961]

Yes, this is the right Catherine Carty (see earlier post)

Catherine CARTY arrived onboard “Tippoo Saib” in July 1850
Age 16 a house servant from Longford


Catherine (aka Caroline) Murry
Bathurst gaol 28 Dec 1858
Born Dublin; house servant; Catholic; Arrived free in Australia per “Tippoo Saib”. 1 month confined for obscene exposure.

Feb 1859 Bathurst. Catherine Murry per “Tippoo Saib” - 6 months confinement under Vagrant act.

MARRIAGE
12 June 1860 St Bernards Roman Catholic Church, Hartley NSW
Caroline Catherine Murry, widow married Francis Feeney
(She was not a widow, because Richard Murray died in 1861)

There are numerous records for Catherine / Caroline Feeney (Feeny / Fenny/ Sweeney) in the Bathurst region for vagrancy, stealing, drunkedness, through the 1860s, 1870s and into the 1880s.

I don’t know if this is still her in 1905
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/157316452?searchTerm=%22Catherine%20Feeney%22