Ernst Marno

[Poppy239]

Hello TreeSpirit

Thank you for your message.  I have been trying to find Valerie, who you mentioned in your previous message. 

So far I have:
Ernst, born 1844
Otto, born 1846
Adolph, born 1848
Carolina, born 1849
Julius, born 1850
Ludwig, born 1852
Christina, born 1854
Cornelia, born 1858

[TreeSpirit]

Valeria Maria Theresia b 1856: https://data.matricula-online.eu/en/oesterreich/wien/14-penzing/01-12/?pg=306

[davecapps]

Hi Treespirit
how can i download the marriage doc from
https://www.mza.cz/actapublica/matrika/detail/4051?image=216000010-000253-003369-000000-001358-000000-00-B01754-02090.jp2

[davecapps]

Hi Poppy
these are only the additional infos i can see
he was a widow when he married
Elisabeth Schindler nee Krautwurst died before the wedding

I´ll have a look at the text lines at the bottom
It´s about the father consenting to the marriage and the documents they needed to marry etc etc
get back to you later

[Poppy239]

Thanks to both of you.  I’m just going through the info you’ve so kindly brought to light for me. 

I wonder whether I rather missed a trick on Matricula.  I don’t think my trawling was very effective and clearly it’s possible to zoom in using dates and things.  I must try to get the hang of it in order to cast my net wider to some other names in the tree. 

[davecapps]

Here´s the first part. Rest later

Zu dieser Ehe unseren Tochter habe ich meiner Einwilligung
gegeben in Gegenwart obige Zeugen.

Franz ??
Johann ??
Joseph Ellers

I have given my consent to our daughter´s marriage in the presence of the above witnesses.

[fiddlerslass]

Poppy,
Is this the same family Schindler of Zwittau from whence Oskar Schindler of Schindler's List fame is descended?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oskar_Schindler

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svitavy

Catholic records for Svitavy are on familysearch

https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/1930038?availability=Family%20History%20Library

[davecapps]

Heirat Marno 1839, bottom right

Taufschein des Bräutigams Tattenitz den 29 Juny 1824, Verkündschein Wien den 13 November 1839
Todtenschein der + Ehegattin des Bräutigams, Wien Pfarre Gumpendorf am 27ten Oktober 1839
Heiratsbewilligung vom Girlitzer Oberamte dto 9 November 1839. Taufschein der Braut
dedato Zwittau am 26ten Oktober 1839. Nachsicht des 2ten und 3ten Aufgebothes vom Brunner k. k. Kreis-
amt, dedato 4 Novber 1839. aufbewahrt im Pfarrarchiv Fach III Fasc: x/1839 Nro. 9
Daß alle nach schriftkatholischem Gebrauche getraut wurden bestätiget. D. Engelbert Richter Pfarrer
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Presented documents

Grooms baptismal certificate from Tattenitz den 29 Juny 1824,
his marriage permit from Wien den 13 November 1839
death certificate of the grooms deceased Wife, Wien Pfarre Gumpendorf am 27ten Oktober 1839
Marriage permit from the Girlitzer Oberamte dto 9 November 1839.
Brides baptismal certificate dedato Zwittau am 26ten Oktober 1839.

Confirmation of the 2nd  and 3rd  Banns from Brunner parish county office, dedato 4 Nov 1839. kept in the parish archive, compartment III Fasc: x/1839 Nro. 9

D. Engelbert Richter, priest, confirmed that all the documents conformed to catholic custom and  tradition

[Poppy239]

Hello Davecapps
Forgive me it’s been a long day! So are we saying that Franz Schindler was married twice?
Thanks again for translating