Jacob Owens (+ wife)

[loobylooayr]

There is an Agnes Richmond aged 15 employed as a female servant at Low Armsheugh ( a farm I suspect) in Irvine on 1841 Census. ( Her age may have been rounded down as many were on the 1841)
James and Agnes Wyllie ( spelt with 2 L's) are at Cotton Row, Irvine on the 1851 Census - Agnes's place of birth is Symington, Ayrshire. Agnes is recorded as 27 years old. James is 40.

William Owens is aged 11 at Kilmaurs on  1851 Census  but in fact he is living at the village of Crosshouse in Kilmaurs Parish.

This means Agnes could have been around 15/16 years old when she gave birth.

Looby

[loobylooayr]

Does William Owens marry Barbara Ross at the same place and on the same day as his mother  Agnes Kennedy Richmond marries Hugh Laurie?

24th February 1860?

Looby

[loobylooayr]

William gives his age as 19 when he marries in Feb 1860.
If this age is correct he would not have been born until sometime after Feb 1841. He might not have been born until after the 1841 Census which could explain why he can't be found on it .
How consistent is he with ages on Censuses?

Looby

[rosie17]

Does William Owens marry Barbara Ross at the same place and on the same day as his mother  Agnes Kennedy Richmond marries Hugh Laurie?

24th February 1860?

Looby

His marriage was the same residence as Agnes Kennedy Richmond ( mother )
And it was Barbara Richmond he married

Rosie

[rosie17]

James and Agnes Wyllie ( spelt with 2 L's) are at Cotton Row, Irvine on the 1851 Census - Agnes's place of birth is Symington, Ayrshire. Agnes is recorded as 27 years old. James is 40.






Looby

Yes I would say this is the same Agnes

Rosie

[rosie17]

William gives his age as 19 when he marries in Feb 1860.
If this age is correct he would not have been born until sometime after Feb 1841. He might not have been born until after the 1841 Census which could explain why he can't be found on it .
How consistent is he with ages on Censuses?

Looby

All census records have him born 1841


Rosie

[loobylooayr]

Does William Owens marry Barbara Ross at the same place and on the same day as his mother  Agnes Kennedy Richmond marries Hugh Laurie?

24th February 1860?

Looby

Apologies - Brain was frazzled 
It is indeed Barbara Richmond that William Owens marries on 24/2/1860
And Agnes Richmond marries Hugh Laurie on the same day at same place.

Looby

His marriage was the same residence as Agnes Kennedy Richmond ( mother )
And it was Barbara Richmond he married

Rosie

[rosie17]

I think we have found the correct mother it's the father Jacob Owens that's the problem .Obviously never been a marriage and nothing matching on census records for him 

Rosie

[Forfarian]

( Her age may have been rounded down as many were on the 1841)

The instructions to enumerators in 1841 were that the age of everyone aged 15 or more was to be rounded down to the nearest 5 years.

Some (a minority) of enumerators failed to adhere to this instruction, whih is good news for us 183 years on