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Messages - Glen in Tinsel Kni

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Lord St was the home of the Overseers and later the different incarnations of the council right up to the point when the WLDC moved to Marshall's Yard.

The following is a copy and paste of details from about 15 years ago (hence no 1911 census details) I was doing some research into Fanny Craven;

1871 the family were living on Trinity Street, the household includes Sarah Ledger recorded as mother in law to Joseph and a correseponding record shows the marriage of Joseph Craved to Ann Ledger in Boston in 1856.

1881 and living on Lord Street.
Joseph CRAVEN Head M Male 48 Gedney, Lincoln, England Vestry Clerk & C Solicitors Clerk
Ann CRAVEN Wife M Female 49 Wigtoft, Lincoln, England Vestry Clerk & C Solicitors Clerk Wife
Annie Elizth. CRAVEN Dau Unm Female 22 Gainsbro, Lincoln, England Music Teacher
Fanny Maria CRAVEN Dau Unm Female 14 Gainsbro, Lincoln, England Scholar

1891 Census living at 12 Lord Street
Joseph is a vestry clerk/solicitors clerk
Ann is an insurance agent/house agent
Fanny is an assistant vestry clerk

1901
19 Morton Terrace
Joseph, solicitors clerk/insurance agent, superintendant registrar of births, marriages and deaths

The 1930 Kelly's Directory of Gainsborough shows Miss Fanny Craven resident at 19 Morton Terrace.
Also in 1930 Lancelot Crook Iveson lived at "The Hollies", Morton Terrace.


Additional comments on the thread mentioned the Iveson surname linked to #7 and #12 Lord St and family members being recorded as solicitors and also a registrar of births, marriages and deaths.

Lincolnshire Registration services supply scans of the original registers for the entire county but do ask for the venue name/location when it's a marriage event. As that is known in this case they should be able to locate the register and supply a copy, I've used them regularly over the years and in most cases I've received the cert within a couple of days. 

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Ancestry DNA Matches Updated Display
« on: Thursday 30 May 24 23:46 BST (UK)  »
My sub expired on Sunday so my page was bound to change but I don't have the new icons just yet or the DNA tools announcement though others in the UK are starting to see them. A couple of days without new matches but back to normal now as I've had a dozen drop in three or four updates today alone

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: 3C or half 3C?
« on: Friday 24 May 24 16:58 BST (UK)  »
My fully sourced and documented 1c looks great until you look at our shared cM. I could have bought a dozen  dna kits with the money I have spent on certs containing nothing but lies and false fathers.

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Don't need colour codes for paternal + maternal on ancestry anymore ...matches are automatically assigned to parents 1 & 2 and you only need to assign which is which
This no longer applies to your DNA matches unless you have an Ancestry subscription (one of many features that I recently lost as I currently don't have an account with them). Even if you do have an account and are able to see paternal and maternal matches they are not always accurate. When I was able to see them I often had to correct them manually then wait for an update. Also, some of my matches were unassigned at that time.

The system that I use and works for me is that the families of each great-grandparents has a colour assigned. Beyond that is a bit trickier. One great-grandfather doesn't have any further subdivisions to show relatives for his father and mother as both families came from a small geographical area and intermarried with other related families. Another great-grandfather has his mother's family, his grandmother's family, his great-grandmother's family and great-great-grandmother's family with their own colours since I have large groups of matches for these families.
One thing that I'm glad I did, just before I lost some features was assigning unknown matches as unknown paternal and unknown maternal whenever possible. At least now I have a better idea of my paternal & maternal matches.

Mine runs out today but as I've been busy with a lot of sources recently took the keep my tree option or whatever it's called so at least I can still see the records I attached. Roll on Pro Tools arriving, that looks like it could be useful rather than the useless AI stuff they have  just thrown up  for the one click copy brigade. 

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They are rolling out changes to the match lists, pages of matches rather than scrolling down a list (just select how are displayed per page)

Coloured dots replaced with squares. Still just 24 colours but each can be used multiple times to create more groups. Group names can now include letters, numbers and emojis,  they appear with the first letter or number of the group name so you could have multiple red groups but identify them by the first letter/number. Also  edit groups, relationships & notes from the match list page

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: DNA match 1147 cms
« on: Tuesday 21 May 24 21:38 BST (UK)  »
Paternal grandparents had quite an age gap and multiple relationships/marriages.  My half aunts and uncles span more than 50 years from first to last. The oldest was born in 1883, my grandmother born in 1890 and I came along in 1966. It's fair to say I don't get many decent matches on that side as removed half relatives often fall in the zero cM bracket.

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Lincolnshire / Re: One man, two men or three different men?
« on: Tuesday 21 May 24 09:13 BST (UK)  »
Several different links on the forums and social media though I've had no luck getting any to work.

I just can't fathom which sibling in the generation Henry and Sarah Ann belong to is my ancestor and those two in particular have so many question marks over them. 

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Lincolnshire / Re: One man, two men or three different men?
« on: Tuesday 21 May 24 05:39 BST (UK)  »
The plot thickens;

In the 1881 Sarah noted with her father Cornelius and also a sibling Henry plus the two year old Cornelius. Henry's  birth ref WESELDINE, HENRY mmn GOWEN GRO Reference: 1870 M Quarter in HORNCASTLE Volume 07A Page 535 (same quarter as Sarah's son Cornelius).

Someone pulled up a record on Fold 3 for Henry (I don't have a sub so can't see it myself)

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Attested 2 Brigade Royal Artillery with the rank of Driver from 7 Nov 1887 to 21 Mar 1888.
Transferred to 1st Brigade 22 Mar 1888 to 10 Aug 1888* .
Deserted 11 Aug 1888 to 31 Oct 1888
Rejoined 1 Nov 1888 to 19 Nov 1888
Awaiting trial 20-21 Nov 1888
Tried & Convicted 22 Nov 1888. All former service forfeited on conviction
Imprisoned 22 Nov 1888 - 16 Jan 1889
Continued 17 Jan 1889 - 20 Jan 1889
Deserted 21 Jan 1889


Stationed:
9 Nov 1887: Colchester
22 Mar 1888: Newcastle upon Tyne
03 May 1888: Weedon

Other Info:

Age: 18 years, 9 months, born Horncastle, occupation: Labourer
Height: 5ft 4 & 3/4 ins
Weight: 128lbs
Complexion: Fair, Eyes: Grey, Hair: Light Brown
Wesleyan
Tattooed a dot on lower and back part of left forearm
two Nervii over loins(?)

Father recorded as Cornelius Wesseldine, Horncastle
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The Courts Martial record says the trial was at Weedon on 22 Nov 1888 & sentenced to 56 days with hard labour

He vanishes from the records after that point, I can't find anything for him. As he doesn't seem to like military life I find it hard to think he uses the Dobbs alias and signs up again (and I think the military stuff in the name Dobbs overlaps timewise anyway) but where does he go? I have so many dna matches to this family through Sarah and her siblings but the closest so far is the grandchild of Sidney Ratcliffe who could be anything from a half 1st cousin to a half 1c2r.


 

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Lincolnshire / Re: One man, two men or three different men?
« on: Saturday 18 May 24 19:29 BST (UK)  »
Yeah Sarah is a bit of a slippery character, if her hubby died in 1892 it begs the question who the father of James b1895 and  Ivy b1897 would be. 
There's an 1897 ref of a James Hudson Dobbs in Lincoln, no maiden name recorded , also an Ivy in 1897 in Lincoln again no maiden name on the GRO website. Ivy was baptised and the register states her father is Christopher (deceased), and mother Sarah Ann.

I didn't bother with the certs as I doubt they are accurate though I do have the cert for Cornelius b1879, at least that one does say mum Sarah Ann Wesseldine, spinster. 


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