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« on: Sunday 25 March 18 17:25 BST (UK) »
Hello all,
I haven't posted in absolutely ages and am just getting back into my family tree having received my dna results. I really need some help in clarifying how to tell if I have the correct birth certificate for my great grandmother or not? Here is my problem:-
On marriage certificate her name is - GERTRUDE Caroline Smith married Thomas Staines 12.04.1903 Tottenham, Middlesex.
Aged 21 - this makes birth 1882
Father William Smith (still living) - Labourer
Residence 8 Brograve Road, Tottenham
On death certificate name - CAROLINE Staines
05.09.1944 Enfield, Middlesex
Aged 60 - makes birth 1884
Census 1911
CAROLINE Staines born Tottenham, Middlesex, married 8 years living in Enfield, Middlesex with husband Thomas Staines and children.
Aged 26 - makes birth 1885
I ordered the only GERTRUDE Caroline Smith birth in the Tottenham area around the year 1885 and these are the details from it:
5 Mar 1885
10 Howard Terrace, High Road
Gertrude Caroline
Girl
SIDNEY William Smith
Annie Mary Smith formerly Allwright
Solicitors Clerk
A M Smith, mother, 10 Howards Terrace, High Road, Tottenham
16 Apr 1885
Prior to receiving this certificate I had been told her parents were William Smith b. 1850 and Caroline Rumble b. 1852 which is completely different to the above.
Is it possible her father went from a solicitors clerk to a labourer. He also has Sidney as a first name followed by William which is a possiblity as Gertrude or Caroline proves they dropped names. How can I be sure which is correct? I cannot see another birth for a Gertrude or Caroline that coinside with the dates and place or birth
Below are the census I found for Sidney William and Annie Mary, I cannot find them on any others after 1891
1881 Census
RG11/1384/24 p 42
40 West Green Rd
Sidney Smith Head 23 Solicitor's clerk b Brixton, Surrey
Annie Smith 23 wife
1891 Census
RG12/37/171 Hammersmith
Sydney W Smith Head 33 Private engraving agent law ?stationed b Brixton, London
Annie M Smith wife
Sydney N Smith 10
Daisy M Smith 8
Gertrude C Smith 6
Mabel E Smith 3
Stanley Smith 1
Any help or input apprectiated
Thanks
Kim