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Re: Jacobite prisoners from 1745
« Reply #99 on: Monday 13 December 10 19:52 GMT (UK) »
Has anyone found a listing for a David Oliphant or Olyphant (surgeon)I can only find one with 7 other prisoners some from the Manchester regement(banished jan 1748), this David could be the one ? none in "no quarter given"

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Re: Jacobite prisoners from 1745
« Reply #100 on: Monday 21 February 11 04:07 GMT (UK) »
Thank you in advance I have Nisbets, Simpsons and Wisharts in my tree so if it is 'nay bother' would you kindly tell me what happened to them and any other information you may have.
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« Reply #101 on: Monday 21 February 11 20:31 GMT (UK) »
Thank you in advance I have Nisbets, Simpsons and Wisharts in my tree so if it is 'nay bother' would you kindly tell me what happened to them and any other information you may have.
regards Martyn

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Re: Jacobite prisoners from 1745
« Reply #102 on: Wednesday 23 February 11 01:15 GMT (UK) »
Hi OR,when you have a moment could you let me know what it says on McLean,Fraser and Kerr,nay rush laddie,when ye can ;D.

George.
SCOTLAND: Wardlaw Steen/Stein Tweedie McBride McEwan Pate/Peat Brown Somerville Bishop Farier/Ferrier Wood  Torrance Gibb Ross Dunlop Downs Richardson Ramsey Story Snaddon/Sneddon Auld Allan McLean McInnes Mason Law Lawson Kerr Cockburn Christie Ballingall Wardrope Weir Wallace Scott.
IRELAND: Welsh Clifford Lee Allingham Keane Dale Robinson Greer McVey Bingham Skelton Carson Broomfield Clark McEwan/McKeown McCreary McLaughlan.
YORKSHIRE: Cudworth Smith Cope Coulton Hainsworth


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Re: Jacobite prisoners from 1745
« Reply #103 on: Friday 25 February 11 00:24 GMT (UK) »
Thank you in advance I have Nisbets, Simpsons and Wisharts in my tree so if it is 'nay bother' would you kindly tell me what happened to them and any other information you may have.
regards Martyn
John Nesbit  with Ecossals Royale    ,Turtor,in Falkirk age 21 taken prisoner and transported.Alexander  Wishart of  Montrose with the Ogilvy"s servant to Thomas webter Montrose age 24 taken prisoner and transported.James  Wishart of Fochabers with Gorden of Glenbucket age18 labourer in Fochabers taken prisoner To Carlisle and pardoned for inlisting.John Wishart of Dundee with the Ogilvys merchant.Andrew Simpson of Dundee sailor with the Ogilvys  taken prisoner and discharged.David Simpson orSampson of Aulbar age 56  linen weaver taken prisoner transported with Ogilvys.James Simpson of Arbroath age20 shoe maker with Ogilvys taken prisoner transported.John Simpson servant in Forfar with
ogilvys.Patrick Simpson Farmer in Forfar with


ogilvys taken prisoner Discharged.William Simpson of Forfar workman with Ogilvys.James Simpson of Edinburgh clerk with with Grante's artillery writer.

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Re: Jacobite prisoners from 1745
« Reply #104 on: Friday 25 February 11 00:57 GMT (UK) »
Hi OR,when you have a moment could you let me know what it says on McLean,Fraser and Kerr,nay rush laddie,when ye can ;D.

George.
there are 69 Mcleans listed can you narrow the search?and 118 Frasers (with an S and two Frazers).Donald Kerr of achnahaird 35 years old farmer with the Earl of Cromartie taken prisoner and transported.Duncan Kerr age 40 of Ross with Cromartie taken prisoner may have died in captivity.Col Henry Kerr of Garden taken prisoner banished


Princes Staff.John Kerr with theIrish Piquets  deserted taken prisoner discharged.Robert Kerr with the Ecossais Royales taken prisoner died in prison in 1746. Aeneas


kerr age 40 of Ross with Cromartie taken prisoner may have died in captivity.

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Re: Jacobite prisoners from 1745
« Reply #105 on: Friday 01 April 11 21:24 BST (UK) »
In the book "The Prisoners of the '45", Volume 2,(1929) by Sir Bruce Gordon Seton, I found a reference on pp.66-67 to

"_____ Butler, regiment of Lt. Fitzjames, Prison Career: 21.2.46 "Charite, Berwick, London, Pardoned conditionally on perpetual banishment 20-10-48.
Notes: "Taken at sea, 21.2.46, Scots Mag., Feb. '46. 96. This may have been the Thomas Butler who was pardoned 20-10-48, P.R.3623-28."

I would appreciate any additional information, including the references listed. I am looking for the Thomas Butler born 1720 in Wicklow, Ireland who was an ordinance officer in the British Army. He married Eleanor Parker in 1741. The family says he "got into some trouble" with the British Army, and immigrated in 1748 with his wife and 3 small children to Pennsylvania. He was the patriarch of the famous "Fighting Butlers" of the American Revolution who were 5 officers serving under Gen. George Washington. Could this be the same Thomas Butler?? The name, timeframe, "trouble with the Army" seem to fit. They are my DNA cousins.
Thanks for any assistance.
Mary Butler Arnold

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Re: Jacobite prisoners from 1745
« Reply #106 on: Sunday 03 April 11 13:13 BST (UK) »
only a Pattrick in "no quarter given"

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Re: Jacobite prisoners from 1745
« Reply #107 on: Tuesday 28 June 11 12:36 BST (UK) »
Grant names for PGM.

1122  Alexander Grant   Transported  31st   March 1747
1123  Alexander Grant   Acquitted     16th   December 1746
1124  Alexander Grant   Transported  20th   March 1747
1125  Alexander Grant   Transported  20th   March 1747
1126  Alexander Grant   Transported  31st   March 1747
1132  Angus       Grant   Transported  31st   March 1747
1133  Angus       Grant   Transported  31st   March 1747
1134  Angus       Grant   Transported  30th   March 1747
1137 Archibald Grant     Transported  31st   March 1747
1141  Daniel   Grant       Not Known
1143  Donald  Grant       Transported  to Barbados 19th   March 1747
1144  Donald  Grant       Transported  20th   March 1747
1145  Donald  Grant       Transported  31st   March 1747
1146  Donald  Grant       Transported  31st   March 1747
1147  Donald  Grant       Transported  31st   March 1747
1148  Donald  Grant       Transported 
1149  Donald  Grant       Transported  31st   March 1747
1151  Dugal    Grant       Transported  31st   March 1747
1152  Duncan  Grant       Transported  20th  March 1747
1153  Duncan  Grant       Discharged
1155  Farquhar Grant      Transported  20th   March 1747
1157  George   Grant       Transported  31st   March 1747
1159  Hugh      Grant       Transported  31st   March 1747
1160  Ewan     Grant       Not Known
1165  James    Grant       Transported
1166  James    Grant       Transported 31st March 1747
1170  John      Grant       Transported 31st March 1747
1171  John      Grant       Transported 31st March 1747
1172  John      Grant       Transported 20th March 1747
1173  John      Grant       Transported 31st March 1747
1174  John      Grant       Transported 31st March 1747
1175 John       Grant       Transported 31st March 1747
1176  John      Grant       Transported 31st March 1747
1177  John      Grant       Transported 31st March 1747
1178  John      Grant       Transported 31st March 1747
1179  John      Grant       Transported 31st March 1747
1180  John      Grant       Transported 31st March 1747
1181  John      Grant       Transported 31st March 1747
1182  John      Grant       Transported 31st March 1741
1189  Patrick   Grant        Died at Tilbury Fort
1190  Patrick   Grant       Transported
1191  Patrick   Grant        Transported 20th March 1747
1192  Peter      Grant        Transported 31st March 1747
1193  Peter      Grant        Transported 20th March 1747 



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