Mysterious Birds - born Souldrop

[Ecneps]

Looking for Mary, Esther and Daniel Bird, all born Souldrop, Bedfordshire - can anyone help please?

Census 1871 - Huddersfield RG10/4368 f.20 p.33
Francis Zipfel head   43 b. Norwich
Mary Zipfel    wife     42 b. Souldrop Bedfordshire
Esther Zipfel   dau   19          "
Maria Zipfel        "       1   b. Huddersfield

Census 1881 - Huddersfield RG11/4381 fol.108 p.23
Francis Zipfell head 51 b. Norwich
Mary Zipfell   wife   49 b. Souldrop
Maria Zipfell    dau  16 b. Huddersfield
Daniel Bird  stepson 24 b. Souldrop

I'm assuming Francis Zipfel married Mary ? who was previously married to a Mr. Bird with children Esther & Daniel but can't find them before 1871
I have Daniel from 1881-1901, but nothing for Esther apart from 1871 census.
Francis Zipfel died 1890, haven't found Mary in 1891 yet.

Can anyone help?
crossing fingers, Barbara 

[johnP-bedford]

FreeBMD has a one sided marriage of Francis Zipfell in Apr/Jun 1887 at Huddersfield vol 9a page 573,  one-sided as the entry does not show any other party. But going into full marriage index lookup, I find it is Mary Bird also married in that quarter & on same vol/page

[Ecneps]

Thanks for the speedy reply John, I had seen the one-sided entry for Francis, but I thought (should have known better by now) that the marriage was too late for this couple so hadn't looked up the bride 

How interesting, so they didn't marry until 1887    Wonder who she married first then and if he was still alive when she was living with Francis.

Thanks very much for that,
Barbara
 

[ricky1]

Hi Barbara

Are you sure Mary was married before
as there is a Mary Bird living in Souldrop on the 1841 census about the right age

ricky

[ricky1]

1841

William Bird 50 ag lab born in county
Mary       "   30                   "
John       "   20                   "
Thomas   "  15                  "
Mary        " 14                    "
Benjamin "  11                    "
Jane        "   2                     "
George    "  10 months       "


living in Souldrop, Beds

H0107/ 8/15
folio 9
page 12

ricky

[Ecneps]

No I'm not sure of anything, just assuming she was perhaps a widow and I hadn't seen that 1841 entry
Some family member thought she might previously have been called Fosket, but that's hearsay only, and it threw me off the scent a bit - unless of course there were two Marys and 2 marriages
 
thanks Ricky
Barbara 

[ricky1]

1851

She is a servant

Mary Bird serv u/m 23 house servant Beds Souldrop

H0107/ 1743
folio 249
page 3

ricky

[tazzie]

   Barbara....

  Instead of Foskett how about Fossey....

 I can see a Daniel Bird as a Grandson in Amptill

  RG9/1000 f 23 p40

 Head is    Thomas Fossey

                         Tazzie

[tazzie]

   Nah....I cannot see a marriage of Fossey to Bird being hopeful I guess

                        Tazzie