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« Reply #63 on: Thursday 27 September 12 04:12 BST (UK) »
OK, now I am about worn out...

I checked for William Mc/MacDonald marrying Marg* from 1834 to 1842 and found 2 possibilities.  Neither panned out.

Looked for births of all their children, and only Johanna shows up.

Either they didn't baptize them, or records in the area just sparse for that time frame.

might try again in scotlandspeople after I relax a bit.  Tomorrow I will probably review where we are... done pretty well I think!

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McLellan - Inverness
Greer - Renfrewshire
Manson - Aberdeen & Orkney
Simpson - Hereford, Devon, etc.
Flett - Orkney
Chisholm - Scotland
Wishart - Orkney
Shand - Aberdeen
Pirie - Aberdeen

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« Reply #64 on: Friday 28 September 12 09:21 BST (UK) »
In reviewing, I think I have a good handle now (thanks all!) on the children of Alexander Chisholm and Mary Robertson.  More on that below.

At this point, the 3 original points are all that are left, in case anyone has any ideas.

Re the last son William who was thought to be in Australia in 1858:  Deb found an intriguing death in Forbes, NSW in 1864; today I found a newspaper announcement in the Illustrated Sydney News of 15 October that I presume is the same person and he is said to be 45 years old at death (5 years off).

BUT, moments ago I found a 1 Sep 1856 birth of a Mary Robertson Chisholm who's parents were William Chisholm and Mary Cameron!  Further research shows that William Chisholm and Mary Cameron were married 7 July 1855 in NSW, Australia.  Groom's father's name:   Alexander Chisholm

William would have been 42, but so was I when my last child was born.  Perhaps he is the person who died in 1864 and he was just presenting himself as being younger than he was to his wife.

What say you?   Any ideas other than paying the exorbitant fees NSW wants for BMDs?

Updated nearly an hour later:

OK, I think it's a lock... at least on 1839 immigration

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11586-152448-24?cc=1542665&wc=799173

This is from the NSW, Index to Bounty Immigrants.  Has surname badly misspelled (2 ways).

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McLellan - Inverness
Greer - Renfrewshire
Manson - Aberdeen & Orkney
Simpson - Hereford, Devon, etc.
Flett - Orkney
Chisholm - Scotland
Wishart - Orkney
Shand - Aberdeen
Pirie - Aberdeen

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« Reply #65 on: Friday 28 September 12 10:16 BST (UK) »
Get the alternative to the official certificate re that death at Forbes NSW  ;D 

As per NSW Resources Board here at RChat  ;D

Registry of BMD New South Wales
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/searchHistoricalRecords.htm

·   Details on ALL Certificates for New South Wales
·    http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/familyHistoryCertificates.htm
·    http://www.jaunay.com/bdm.html

Official Transcripts are cheaper  ;D and can be sent by email attachment  ;D  ;D  ;D

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« Reply #66 on: Friday 28 September 12 10:18 BST (UK) »

Now for the Official Transcription Agents details from RChat thread  :)

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« Reply #67 on: Friday 28 September 12 12:58 BST (UK) »
Hi :)

For some reason I haven't received notifications that you have both posted!  :-\

Nick ...Fantastic finds!!!!!!!! Yesterday I endeavoured to find the McDonald family in further censuses ... not much luck...I agree with you that all McD/MacD should be spelled one way or another ... it would save doubling up on searching them!  ::)

Great links, JM :)

Looked for Alexander Chisholm again yesterday ... can't see him after the 1871...grrrr

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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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« Reply #68 on: Friday 28 September 12 13:07 BST (UK) »
 :-\ :-\

look:
Mary's birth was registered in 1856 - Goulburn, New South Wales

Mary R Chisholm
Death Date: 1858
New South Wales
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Mary
Reg. yr and place: 1858, Goulburn, New South Wales
reg #: 3527


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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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« Reply #69 on: Friday 28 September 12 13:55 BST (UK) »
Hi

JM said there were a few articles re: a William Chisholm, schoolmaster. Now that we have a place name (from his daughter's birth and death), it's looking good that he would be the right William.

1858 must have been a bad year for William and his wife; They lost their daughter and it seems their household goods:

Info from the Australian newspapers:
Tuesday 6 April 1858
PROVINCIAL MARKETS.
Goulburn, April 1st
Stock and Merchandise,-Messrs. Dignam and Co. report as:
Lots of miscellaneous info and then this at the end:
The household furniture of Mr. William Chisholm, sold on Tuesday last.

Saturday 19 June 1858
Insolvencies
Surrenders:
William Chisholm, of Goulburn, schoolmaster
Gives some figures on his liabilities and assets.

Tuesday 22 June 1858
Insolvencies hearings
New Insolvents:
same info as on 19 June.
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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« Reply #70 on: Friday 28 September 12 13:59 BST (UK) »
On the other hand 1856 must have been a good year ..Mary was born and then this:

Tuesday 25 March 1856
INTERESTING TESTIMONIAL.-On Monday the 17th instant, the scholars of the Goulburn Grammar School, presented a handsome testimonial to the head master, Mr. William Chisholm. It consisted of the following articles :-A silver inkstand, with a silver receptacle between the glasses for wax lights, a gold pencil-case, and a mother-o'-pearl paper-cutter. An address was also presented to Mr. Chisholm upon the occasion which evinced the high estimation in which that gentleman and Mrs. Chisholm are held by the scholars, and reflected favourably upon their apt dis cernment and appreciation of the good qualities of those under whose tutelage and care they have been placed.
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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« Reply #71 on: Friday 28 September 12 14:14 BST (UK) »
William seems to have been really well respected …I wonder what went wrong?

Here are some nice articles!  I wonder if we can find some pictures of Goulburn Grammar School?

Wednesday 11 March 1857
SOUTHERN DISTRICT.
(From the Goulburn Papers of Saturday.)
Lecture Session-On Wednesday evening, the Hon.. Mr. T. A. Murray, M.P, delivered a lecture to the members of the School of Arts at Mr. William Chisholm’s school-house, Clifford-street : Subject-Thunderr-storms. The attendance was in every respect satisfactory, the room being crowded by a respectable and attentive auditory.


Tuesday 15 December 1857
GOULBURN GRAMMAR SCHOOL - The usual annual examination of the pupils of Mr. Chisholm's Goulburn Grammar School took place on Thursday last; the Rev. Mr. Ross kindly undertook the task. At the conclusion Mr. Ross handed the following letter, to Mr. Chisholm :

Manse??, Goulburn,
16th December, 1867.

Dear Sir,
I am happy to convey to you the satisfaction- which I felt at the very creditable exhibition made this day by your pupils when examined by me. The English grammar and the geography classes displayed very clearly; that much pain's had been used by you, and much attention paid by the scholars. I.may mention particularly Masters W. Grovenor, W. McConnell, James Walsh, D. Fenton, and the two Woodwards. The other boys were very little behind them and I am bound to mete out to them their deserved measure of praise. Master Hillas read his Virgil with ease, evidently understanding what he was about. Master W. Grovenor read his lesson in Cornelius Nepos admirably, showing him to be a boy possessed of ability and, promising parts, if carefully cultivated hereafter. The examination as a whole was pleasing and cannot fail of being gratifying to you as a teacher.

William Ross.
(To Mr. William Chisholm, Grammar School, Goulburn.)
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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