Smyth, John Beveridge

[MonicaL]

Thanks Kay  Glad that you see potentially with word Forrester (spelt with 2 r's). We now also have a potential new name, but again also initials!

Monica

Added: Mr A B Smith is indexed as being aged 33 on the manifest: http://castlegarden.org/quick_search_detail.php?p_id=1462540  and for Mr J B Smith here http://castlegarden.org/quick_search_detail.php?p_id=1462541

Just found the above indexes from Castle Garden site. They have them indexed as Forester for occupation. Exciting!

[Kay99]

On second thoughts could A B Smith be 23 instead of 33??  I see he is transcribed as 23

[MonicaL]

I think we have a chink of light Kay...let me just gather and type up...!

[Kay99]

     I had thought A B might be Alexander B  born in Banff in 1858 - the child of Daniel and Ann- but after fiddling on Scotlands People I think his middle initial should be G.

[MonicaL]

Some facts we had on JB that were mentioned by everyone here:

Reference to prizes for his papers c. 1878. GR2 made the ref to the fact he seemed to know a lot about Fife potentially to write his paper....also, very unprecise science from me...but every time I see the surname Beveridge, it always point in my head to Fife area for research!

We know that his occupation was that of a Forester at Duff House before he left Scotland, after 1879 from what is documented.

We have a potential reference now to a Mr J B Smith arriving in the US in 1879, occupation a Forester. Also travelling with him is a Mr A B Smith, also a Forester by occupation.

1900 census gave his birth month as November. Birth year has ranged from 1847-49.


So, with all of the above, I would like to put up my favourite candidate so far, a John Smith born November 1844 (matching the manifest birth year and 1900 census birth month) in CARNBEE, FIFE. Parents David Smith and mother a Christina BEVERIDGE. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTNZ-VK3

We need to fill in blanks, but there is this 1871 census entry showing:

John Smith 27, Forrester, b. Carnee Fife
Isabella Smith 30 Forresters Wife b. Cornback, fifeshire
David Smith 7
Thomas Smith 3
Elizbeth Smith 2

Address: Windmill, Collesie, Fife

And that is as far as I have got so far...

Monica

Added: Kay, that G for the Banff Alexander is for Grant I think. Maternal Grandmother's maiden name.

[Kay99]

That looks very promising

[MonicaL]

It does doesn't it...exciting always when you get push forward 

This looks to be the marriage of John Smith to Isabella METHVEN in 1863 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTRC-JLM

Children's births:

David 1863 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XYT5-NLS
Thomas 1867 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XY1K-L84
Elizabeth 1869 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XY5G-8X2

Then we have 1871 census above...and after that, no more children showing for them on Family Search. Also, no death showing on the index for an Isabella Smith/Methven (with * for wildcard spellings).

If we have the right John, could Isabella and children have followed him after 1879? We have that possible 1880 entry in Minnesota for a married John Smyth showing as a farmer. There are no other Sm*ths showing in Minnesota in 1880 born in Scotland from what I could see (amazingly for a common surname).

Need to try and find a Mr A B Smith born c. 1848 don't we  and the rest!

Monica

[Kay99]

I think AB was actually born in 1856 and this John's parents David and Chistian did have an Alexander in 1856

Alexander Smith
Birth  23 Apr 1855 Carnbee,Fife,Scotland
Father:    David Smith
Mother:    Christina Beveridge

Edit - However this Alexander is still in Fife in 1881 - working as a carpenter with wife Agnes

[MonicaL]

Not getting the Mr A B Smith yet either. Been trying to look for a manifest for possibly Isabella with children post 1879 if we have the right John etc. Not yet seeing anything and think I am searched out now 

Monica