Simeon Brim (b1887) of Wrestlingworth. Marriage or death?

[TadlowNewell]

There are three generations of 'Simeon Brim' in Wrestlingworth:
 
   . Sim1 (1816-1902) married 1840 to Elizabeth Yarrow, publican of "Queen Victoria"
   . Sim2 (1851-1931) married 1872 to Ann Bland
   . Sim3 (1887 - ??) married, perhaps, to one Margaret E Freeman,
                              and with a son curiously named "Allan Simeon Frank Brim"

These folk appear on many Ancestry 'Public Trees' but none have any information about "Sim3"s marriage or death. I only found the info about his wife and child from one of these trees, sadly unsourced.("RefinedWallTree" by pete_wall1)

I have a photo of "Sim3", probably taken when he was in his late teens, by a Bedford Photographer. He also appears in the 1891 and 1901 censuses at Wrestlingworth with his parents. For the 1911 Census of Wrestlingworth it seems there is only a record of the summary index (names of household heads), at least on Ancestry, and in that there is just one mention of a 'Simeon Brim' who could be Sim2 or Sim3.

I cannot find any record of "Sim3"s marriage or death either in Ancestry, or FreeBMD, or GRO indexes. He does not seem to appear in the 1939 Register, nor in any Electoral Registers indexed by Ancestry...

I know there are many families called 'Brin' rather than 'Brim' in the area, but Sim3 does not seem to be hiding behind a mis-spelling. I've tried many alternatives!

So, my questions:

1. Does anyone know why the full 1911 census for Wrestlingworth is not available on Ancestry, only the Summary Index? Is it completely lost or just an accidental omission? Can I find it somewhere else...?

2. Can anyone find any information on Sim3 after 1901 in sources I have not searched? Maybe he emigrated...

Maybe I just need to wait until the 1922 census becomes available next year and see if he appears there...

Thanks in advance

[BumbleB]

FindMyPast have the Brim family in 1911 - Simeon, Ann and Frank.

Transcript from Family Search:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7V1-N83

[TadlowNewell]

Many thanks. So it seems 1911 Wrestlingworth census is just missing from Ancestry, not everywhere. Frustratingly this Simeon is Sim2. It at least tells me his son, Sim3, had probably left home before 1911. He would have been 24 at that date, so it is not surprising.
 

[cath151]

Hi
Funeral articles of Ann (1926) and Simeon aged 79  (1931) Brim mention various members of the family including son Simeon Brim whose address in 1931 is Queensbury, York.
Another so Frank is mentioned and seems to have a wife but no Mrs. S Brim mentioned.

Cathy

[TadlowNewell]

Hi Cath,

Thanks so much. I have just searched using the info you provide with no joy. Would you be able to give me a source or link...? I'd love to see what the 'funeral articles' you mention contain. Tantalising!

[rosie99]

You will need to remove your email address, rootschat does not like us posting them.

I can't see a birth registration for a Simeon with MMN Bland.  Could he actually be registered under another first name or have I missed it 

BRIM, EMMA       mmn BLAND 
1883  Sept Quarter in BIGGLESWADE  Volume 03B  Page 338

BRIM, EGDAR       mmn BLAND 
1886  Dec Quarter in BIGGLESWADE  Volume 03B  Page 343

BRIM, WILFRED       mmn BLAND 
1890  Sept Quarter in BIGGLESWADE  Volume 03B  Page 335
(Wilfred appears as Alfred on census)
 

[rosie99]

Edgar marries Gladys Broadbent at Haley Hill, Halifax - father Simeon 3rd April 1929.  He was widowed.  First marriage to Helen Johnson in 1912.

His death
June qtr 1960 
BRIM    Edgar   
age 73   
Halifax    2b   557

[TadlowNewell]

email removed Ok. Apologies

[rosie99]

Edgar was in the police - records plus electoral register information on Ancestry