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Offline Gan Yam

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Fanny Wilmot (b1851) from Bristol married Alfred William Vowles, a Professor of Music in Bristol on 7 July 1871.  Alfred William Vowles filed for divorce in 1876 on the grounds of adultery by Fanny and the co-respondent was named as Thomas Johnson.  On her marriage to Alfred, there is no father named on her marriage certificate. Alfred and Fanny  had two sons, Lewis and Julian. Decree Nisi 7 November 1876. Same lady or just huge coincidence!
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Gan Yam, I was looking at the same divorce. I was thinking she used her maiden name Wilmot when she married Johnson, because her 1st marriage had been dissolved.
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Gan Yam, I was looking at the same divorce. I was thinking she reverted to her maiden name Wilmot when she married Johnson

I would agree.  Maybe Fanny could be a little economical with the truth if needs be!
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As the marriage had been dissolved, she would use her name Wilmot when she married Johnson.

The 2 Boys born of the marriage appear to have been taken in by the Vowles grandparents.

Alfred William Vowles married again in 1878
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)


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There is a Fanny Wilmot on 1861 census in a boarding school in Bristol.  Her age doesn't quite fit, so it may not be her. Could it possibly be that the late baptism was due to her getting a place at the school and being required to be baptised? just a thought
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Fanny Wilmot was baptised in Bristol on 29th July 1860, although born in 1851
BUT there were siblings baptised at the same time at St Phillip Holy Trinity Bristol
 - Helen Wilmot born 2nd July 1853, baptised 29 July 1860
 - Alice Mary Wilmot born 16 July 1856, baptised 29 July 1860
 - Margaret Wilmot born 15 July 1859, baptised 29 July 1860
Parent for all is Margaret Wilmot (no father named), abode Clifton.

The entry for Fanny is badly water marked (difficult to read) and appears to have some words crossed / scribbled out.



Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Thomas Johnson...married 14 Jan 1877...Fanny Wilmot

Do you have the 1877 marriage record? What are their fathers' names and occupations?

I see Ruby's baptism in Manchester:

Birth 1877
Baptised 23 Nov 1878
Parents Thomas & Fanny Johnson


Edward Wilmot sweet I plugged it in and that matches up

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Fanny Wilmot was baptised in Bristol on 29th July 1860, although born in 1851
BUT there siblings baptised at the same time at St Phillip Holy Trinity Bristol
 - Helen Wilmot born 2nd July 1853, baptised 29 July 1860
 - Alice Mary Wilmot born 16 July 1856, baptised 29 July 1860
 - Margaret Wilmot born 15 July 1859, baptised 29 July 1860
Parent for all is Margaret Wilmot (no father named), abode Clifton.

The entry for Fanny is badly water marked (difficult to read) and appears to have some words crossed / scribbled out.

That is great thank you thank you. Someone else had found her fathers name as Edward but nothing else so this is great that you found this

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I cannot find birth registrations for the 3 daughters under the surname Wilmot
But this one might be for the third daughter ? ?

WILLMOTT, ALICE  MARY           Mothers name - MORGAN 
GRO Reference: 1857  M Quarter in CLIFTON  Volume 06A  Page 76

Also, I cannot find any of those young Wilmot girls in the 1860 census - so are they using another surname?
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)