Robertson family of Perthshire

[atworthy]

I don't have the marriage certificate for Catherine Robertson and James Anderson.

I do have the marriage certificate for my 2great grandparents Susan Robertson and John Cottle Ching, as attached.

[atworthy]

"I'm still trying to confirm the Robinson's on the Tasman are actually my Robertson's."

I take you mean ROBERTSON or is there a ROBINSON family in your research.

No, I am only researching Robertson's but on the previous thread Sue linked, there was a suggestion that the Robinson's listed as passengers on the Tasman would most likely have been Robertson's.

[Forfarian]

Maybe a red herring but when I read Ballengeugh It immediately suggested to me that It was a corruption or alternative spelling of Ballengeich. This is on the north side of Stirling Castle close to what was the boundary with Perthshire.

That was exactly what I wondered.

There's also the story of King James V. See https://www.scottish-places.info/features/featurefirst8913.html

My great-grandparents lived in a house named Ballengeich in West Lothian, but that is almost certainly a red herring in this thread.

[Forfarian]

1841 census: Meikleour, parish of Caputh, Perthshire
Charles Robertson, 18 teacher
Catherine Robertson, 20

Charles could be Charles Campbell Robertson, son of Donald Robertson and Ann Robertson, baptised 13 August 1822.

Have a rake about at https://freecen1.freecen.org.uk/cgi/search.pl and see if you can find candidates for the other siblings.

[sparrett]

Worth noting too there was an immigrant ship named Ballengeich arriving in Victoria August 1851.

The only ROBERTSON I see on board were John and wife Mary.. but the list may be incomplete.  It can be seen at Ancestry. Everyone on board , it appears was English, though I think this was often just a quick and convenient way to fill in the required columns.  I have seen many inaccuracies in this column on shipping lists.


Here is the likely Peter ROBERTSON singing a song  in 1859:D
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/150079448

Sue

[Dundee]

- Peter Robertson born abt 1825 Perthshire. Came out to Australia and had a property called "Ballangeugh" near Geelong. In 1861 he sold up and moved to the Riverina area but no further information.

...... Peter Robinson from the Tasman above. I actually have his Australian family information and wondered if he was Catherine and Susan's brother, but his death certificate has Peter and Ann Robertson as his parents. Possible parents Peter Robertson and Ann Fisher??

The Peter Robertson born 1827 Redgorton married in 1859 Geelong, Annie Wright ANDERSON - the sister of James ANDERSON who married Catherine ROBERTSON. She was born 1829 Kinnoull, Perthshire (their parents were William ANDERSON and Margaret GUTHRIE). He died 1893 in Jerilderie, New South Wales.

These details are all for the same person.  When Peter ROBERTSON married Ann ANDERSON he said his parents were Peter ROBERTSON and Ann FISHER.  The birth of his youngest daughter Mary Jane was registered at Mount Moriac in 1867 and he sold up at Ballengeich in 1875, not 1861.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/148775257

On the premises, Ballangeich, near the Mount Moriac Mill, Horses, Cattle, Pigs, Farming Implements, Household Furniture.... S. HOWELL has received instructions from Mr Peter Robertson, to sell by auction.....

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/148775701

Between twenty and thirty of the friends and acquaintances of Messrs Peter Robertson and William Moreland assembled last evening at the Gnarwarre Hotel for the purpose of testifying their appreciation of the past services and their good wishes for the future welfare of these gentlemen, prior to their departure from the district for Riverina.

Peter and family settled at "Woodside", Yanco. Obits for his family.....

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/134429473

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/130471477

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/134605860

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/134605957

Debra 

[sparrett]

Mmmm..I had missed that paragraph about Peter's arrival and known information from the previous thread.

So no connection to migrant ship  Ballengeich

atworthy, what are we actually looking for to assist you?

Sue

[wivenhoe]

I think we are researching the origins of this ROBERTSON family in Scotland. Susan, and siblings  (?) in the original post.....where are they in Census records in Scotland before arrival in Victoria.

Original post -

"Susan ROBERTSON born abt 1832 Perthshire. Came out to Australia with Margaret. Noted as youngest daughter of Donald Robertson, Perthshire when she married as a spinster in 1863 in her sisters/brother in laws house "Tasman" at Ceres. She was the second wife of John Cottle Ching (born Devon). They had Annie Robertson Ching......

...... Charles Cottle Ching (my gg grandfather)........

 Laura Sophia Ching and Catherine Amelia Ching."

Geelong Advertiser 30 Jan 1863 p2
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/148905742?
On the 29th January, at Tasman Cottage, Barrabool, the residence of Mr James Anderson, by the Rev. James McRoberts, Mr John C. CHING, Barrabool, son of Mr William CHING, Devonshire, England, to Susan, youngest daughter of Mr Donald ROBERTSON, Perthshire, Scotland

Wording suggests that Donald ROBERTSON, Perthshire is alive at Jan 1863.

[wivenhoe]

From original post -

"-Margaret Robertson born abt 1828 Perthshire. Came out to Australia in 1858 on the "John and Lucy" with younger sister Susan. Headed for Bendigo. No further information."

Where are you seeing reference to Bendigo?