Hamill Family Portadown

[mackers]

Firstly I want to say I have posted about this before but it was under a different heading which somewhat confused the situation. But in essence it is about the following family that of Patrick Hamill and Anne Hamill either nee Carr/Kerr. whose family was as follows Mary, Teresa, Ann, and Thomas Hamill. The point being my great grandmother was Teresa.

This is some info I got but can't confirm made up of snippets from Pensar Records and possible connections to them.

Patrick Hamill and Anne Hamill (Carr/Kerr) Breagh Tartaraghan O’Neill and West Armagh.
Patrick approx age 71 1851 census.

Teresa (Hamill) McCann parents married 1841 Teresa age 6. So if Teresa was aged 6 this would give her birth year as about 1847/48

Pensar
Hamill’s as follows children are Mary, Teresa, Ann, and Thomas. Mary born 26th November 1866. Sorry for the way this is formed but this is the way it was given.

I have tried in vain to confirm this but no joy. So I would be grateful for someone with a bit more expertise to review this to see if I am missing something. Hopefully with more success then me. Thanks in advance of any help

[Sinann]

Not entirely sure what your asking but there is a Mary Hamill born 26 Nov 1866 Portadown mother Annie, no father
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1866/03512/2291714.pdf

[Kiltaglassan]

…Breagh Tartaraghan O’Neill and West Armagh.

Just linking the townland-

Breagh townland in the civil parish of Tartaraghan, in the Barony of Oneilland West, in county Armagh.
https://www.townlands.ie/armagh/oneilland-west/tartaraghan/tartaraghan/breagh/
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5248302#map=12/54.4557/-6.4651

[heywood]

I don’t understand either - and as you say you can’t confirm things, it is difficult.

There is a Teresa b 1876 with parents of the same names which, of course, is quite possible.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1876/03036/2112922.pdf

What do you know about Teresa born about 1846?
Did she marry in Ireland?

[heywood]

Related threads which might have further information
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=638971.0

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=463110.0
Your last post on this thread mentions the confusion re the birth of Teresa in 1876.

Are you now thinking that, although Teresa’s parents were Patrick and Anne Hamill, the mother’s surname might be different?

[heywood]

I can’t see a civil marriage but here is the parish record for Edward McCann and Teresa Hamill - July 1871
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633212#page/35/mode/1up

It is difficult to read - 4th entry down

[mackers]

Firstly thanks for the replies. I am already aware of the marriage of Edward and Teresa. It's really the situation about Teresa's parents. Patrick and Anne Hamill and the rest of the family. The problem being the only couple with those names could not have been Teresa's parents. Duet to their ages. A Patrick Hamill a Baker when he died was far too young to be the Teresa I seeks father. As I latterly found out the daughter they had was born when the Teresa i am looking was 5 years married.

But as seen in Edward and Teresa's marriage record her father and mother are named as Patrick and Anne Hamill. Sorry for any confusion. My best guest for Teresa's birth date is in the 1840s. So her father and mother would have had to be born around the 1810s to approx 1820s. The search continues. Regards to all.

[heywood]

I posted the parish marriage details for others who might want to help your research. I can see from your other posts that you have it.
Have you ever found the civil record?

You write:

“But in essence it is about the following family that of Patrick Hamill and Anne Hamill either nee Carr/Kerr. whose family was as follows Mary, Teresa, Ann, and Thomas Hamill. The point being my great grandmother was Teresa. “

Are these your great grandmother and her siblings, or are they Teresa b 1876 and her siblings - the Hamill/Kerr children?

[heywood]

“Patrick Hamill and Anne Hamill (Carr/Kerr) Breagh Tartaraghan O’Neill and West Armagh.
Patrick approx age 71 1851 census.”
Where does this information come from? Do you have a link to the 1851 census you refer to, please?