Farm Owned by Murphys in Armagh

[Murphy616]

You say Mary Anne Murphy died abt 1948 - have you searched for a likely death in Scotlands People?
That would give her parents but the marriage would also. Did you purchase that?
Did the family live in Govan?

Hi there I've been using Ancestry at the moment and looking at Scottish burials..but no matter what information I put in I can't seem to find the correct Mary Anne Murphy (maiden name Smyth)

With regards to Patrick, you have his father as Michael so that may help. As he married in a Catholic church, hopefully you might find baptismal records.

[heywood]

You need to search here
https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/
You register and can purchase the relevant documents through credits.

I posted these records earlier
Death
Francis Murphy 56 yrs mmn Hainy 1933 Camlachie

Marriage
1898 Cambuslang
Francis Murphy and Mary Ann Smyth

You can search for a death for Mary Ann.  I asked earlier, did they live in Govan at the time of her death?

[Murphy616]

Unfortunately I don't know the exact location. My Auntie just thinks it was Glasgow but we can't be 100%. Thank you for the link I'll see what I can find

[heywood]

In reply #33, i mentioned Michael Murphy of Cambuslang and gave you his Irish marriage.

Here is a birth for a Michael with parents Patrick and Ann Haney. Patrick is a farm labourer at this time in 1874
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1874/03153/2156344.pdf

[heywood]

The Valuation revision records show that in 1908 Patrick Murphy’s farm was plot 7 in Ballynarea and that it was 2 acres. In 1921 the occupant changed to Patrick Sheridan. I found Patrick Murphy’s death in 1917. Informant was his daughter Mary A. Sheridan. So it looks as though Mary married a Sheridan and the farm passed to that family after Patrick’s death.

Valuation revision books (you can view on Ancestry) show:
Patrick Murphy ,  1885 - 1897 and 1908 - Plots 7a and 7b

Margaret Murphy, 1873 - 7a and 7b - and earlier I think.
Elwyn is more knowledgeable on this.
**note the Sheridans around too.
This may be the death of Margaret Murphy

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1874/020674/7254035.pdf

[Murphy616]

Thanks for this. Do you have Margaret down as Patrick's wife? I've not come across a Margaret around that time you see

[heywood]

No.
I was taking Elwyn’s finds back where he identifies the Murphy plot in the valuation revision books. - You can view them on Ancestry.
I am speculating that Margaret Murphy may have been Patrick’s mother and wife of Michael Murphy, Patrick’s father.
However, there is nothing yet to prove that.
It may well be that Anne Murphy, the informant at Margaret’s death is Anne Haney Murphy.