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Cheshire / Re: Mary Ann Bell Nee Clutton
« on: Sunday 19 May 24 20:48 BST (UK)  »
I had looked at the Sarah White marriage before as it was the one Ancestry threw up at me as a hint but for some reason I dismissed it, I cant remember why though, I'll revisit that one, like I say, I'm not glued to one school of thought and the Thomas and William combo kind of looked wrong too.
Given there background, I'm assuming rightly or wrongly that the boating thing is passed down the line, as you pointed out Thomas Clutton is listed on the 1861 census as captains assistant at 10 years old and I'll take more notice of this.
I understand that people die early and the surviving spouse marries again, the Hannah Clews thing being a case in point, and whilst she is not in my direct line, info like that does provide corroborating evidence.
Thanks for your help on this, its given me a bit to work on but hopefully I'm on the right track.

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Cheshire / Re: Mary Ann Bell Nee Clutton
« on: Sunday 19 May 24 15:02 BST (UK)  »
Thomas Clutton Born 7th March 1851, Shropshire Died 30th November 1894 Forge Field Sandbach Cheshire.
Married to Sarah Jane Minshull.
His Father, William Clutton Born 20th May 1834 in Wrenbury, Cheshire Died 7th March Church Lawton, Cheshire, I have no spouse for William.
His father, Thomas Clutton Born 1911 in Acton, Cheshire, death date unknown.
Married to Margaret Dykes in 1929 in Wrenbury.
I have William on the 1841 census age 7, his parents both age 30 but with there birthplace just listed as Cheshire, the 1851 census however shows Margaret born in Middlewhich Cheshire. The 1861 shows Thomas as born in Burland, Cheshire and Margaret born in Lughton, Cheshire. 1871 census shows Thomas born in Burland and Margaret born in Leighton.
And thats as far back as I've got.
I dont have certificates yet, thats the next step.
I'm happy with the 1851 Thomas, further back I can be persuaded that his father William and his Father Thomas could be wrong.

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Cheshire / Re: Mary Ann Bell Nee Clutton
« on: Sunday 19 May 24 11:37 BST (UK)  »
Interesting article, and when I get time I'm going to go in to the life of canal boat people a bit more seriously, from the little I know a lot of the Clutton's plied this trade.................but, in the meantime I'm still stumbling my way through research, although I suspect the problems I'm having IS because they are boat people and transient.

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Cheshire / Re: Mary Ann Bell Nee Clutton
« on: Saturday 18 May 24 20:56 BST (UK)  »
I see that, but that helps how??

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Cheshire / Re: Mary Ann Bell Nee Clutton
« on: Saturday 18 May 24 20:28 BST (UK)  »
Unfortunately not Wilcoxon, his birthdate is calculated from census records, specifically the 1881 census which details boat people moored somewhere I cant decipher, he's head of the family, aged 30, married to Jane Clutton AKA Sarah Jane Minshull.
Ancestry have picked up a birth date of 7th March 1851, presumably from someone else's record.

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Cheshire / I've STILL Got Trouble With The Cluttons
« on: Saturday 18 May 24 17:10 BST (UK)  »
Back again  :-)
I kind of gave up on tracing Alice, it was proving too troublesome for an aunt and not a direct relative but yet again, this side of the family is causing me problems.
I'm happy (I Think) that Mary Ann's parents were Thomas Clutton born 7/03/1851 and Sarah Jane Minshull born June 1856 and I'm also happy at this point with the Minshull line going back.
Again, I think Thomas Cluttons father was William Clutton born 20/05.1833 and if he's the right father, I'm struggling with his mother.
What's clouding the issue is on Ancestry there's ANOTHER William Clutton born in 1824 with a wife named Sarah White. I'm new to Ancestry and I'm struggling in trying to decipher the information being thrown up.
Any help would be gratefully appreciated.

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Cheshire / Re: Mary Ann Bell Nee Clutton
« on: Friday 19 April 24 20:35 BST (UK)  »
I've been in touch with Salford council regarding the electoral roll for 1930, the year of Elsie's marriage to Thomas, to see if Alice was on it............she wasn't, so I've requested a search for the previous 2 years, 1928 when she would have been 21, and 1929, if she is on neither then its clear she moved out sometime between the 1921 census when she was 14 and 1928 when she was 21.....the mystery deepens and the search continues  ::)

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Cheshire / Re: Mary Ann Bell Nee Clutton
« on: Thursday 18 April 24 18:47 BST (UK)  »
I have Alices DOB as 15th May 1907 in Sandbach GRO Ref 8a/306.
The William Bell as a witness to Elsie's marriage is her brother, good tip about the electoral register, I'll get right on it.
It would seem the family never lived in Manchester/Salford before Mary Ann's death in 1909, she was in hospital there for treatment, and the girls are listed in Sandbach on the 1911 census.
At some point the family DID move to Manchester/Salford and certainly before 1815 as Joseph was attested to the Manchester regiment at this time, the question which I don't think will be answered is why?

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Cheshire / Re: Mary Ann Bell Nee Clutton
« on: Monday 15 April 24 20:33 BST (UK)  »
Sorry, as for the address Ashtone, no, she died in St Mary's hospital.

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