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The Common Room / Re: What can be seen on the grass ?
« on: Monday 20 November 23 14:19 GMT (UK)  »
Yes Andrew... 
This was the cidery that was hit by the howitzer incendiarry carcass.  Following the battle, there were no repairs.  As mentioned above, the elements on the grass is the imagination of the unknown artist.  However, I was working on the off-chance that a cider expert could have confirmed the 'ramps' jutting from the two windows.   
As mentioned before, his imagination was obviously related to the woodwork needed for the roof.

Thank you everyone for your help...   ;)

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The Common Room / Re: What can be seen on the grass ?
« on: Sunday 19 November 23 14:37 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you everyone…, all very inventive.  I see there’s potential for a team of battlefield detectives out there.   :)  And I absolutely love that suspension bridge idea !  ;)
I added the URL for this post on an archaeological forum to ask them what they think.  ‘Waterloo Uncovered.’ (PTSD-related soldier archaeologists)  They found several Scots Guards buttons in that building, under the rubble of GREY slate (lol) and charcoal.  Perhaps they may be able to pinpoint something else. 
Thank you for your help…, Iain. 
   
Victoria…, by the way.  You cannot imagine the number of times I think about you when I write the words ‘Courts- Martial.’ (well over a hundred times in the manuscript) Thank you.  Only the National Archives and the MOD get it right.   ;)

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The Common Room / Re: What can be seen on the grass ?
« on: Sunday 19 November 23 08:31 GMT (UK)  »
This building received the howitzer’s incendiary carcass, and everything collapsed inside. (poetic licence with panelling through the windows ?) 

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The Common Room / Re: What can be seen on the grass ?
« on: Sunday 19 November 23 08:27 GMT (UK)  »
This is the rear of the farm and in 1815, that was the orchard strip.  No trees, as they were cut down by the rear party.  Meaning that all wood would have been used for the many pyres along that wall. (as per the Dighton painting)  However, you could be correct, it that it made up parts of the roofing. 

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The Common Room / Re: What can be seen on the grass ?
« on: Sunday 19 November 23 08:22 GMT (UK)  »
Now there's a thought !  Yes, could be !  But it doesn't add up...,

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The Common Room / Re: What can be seen on the grass ?
« on: Sunday 19 November 23 08:15 GMT (UK)  »
Perhaps I should add that the lane to the right of the building is the ‘western lane,’ separating the farm from its kitchen garden.  That garden had a wooden fence, interspersed by a single line of trees. 
The elements leaning against the wall look like ladders. 
But then again, so do the two projecting from the building.

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The Common Room / What can be seen on the grass ?
« on: Sunday 19 November 23 08:05 GMT (UK)  »
Good morning everyone…
As my post is a military-linked question, I suppose I should have posted it in the appropriate section.  However, as this this makes up more of a general, ‘building’ and observation question…, here I am. 

Question:  What are the elements strewn about the grass in this painting ?

Date and details:  This is an anonymous painting of the Hougoumont farm following the Battle of Waterloo.  I have only presented part of the painting, as the remainder, despite it being of interest, it has many errors.  As such, my question remains focused. 
Judging from the walls still standing, it was probably painted between 1817 and 1830.  This then tells us that a certain amount of imagination was used by the artist, as these elements would have been used for the pyres.  The building on the left was the cidery, (to the east of the Northgate) and we can see, projecting from the first and second-floor charging holes, a sort of ‘ramp,’ probably used to roll the barrels down onto the carts. 
However, why so many ‘ramps’ on the grass for so few windows, when ‘logically,’ only two would have been needed.   

PS  Why have I posted this on RootsChat instead of some Napoleonic forum ?  Well, following 10-years of research, my manuscript should be going to print early next year.  In it, RootsChat will be thanked in the credits’ pages…, for all the incredible assistance provided by hundreds of members.  Thanks to you, I have been able to create Ancestry trees for my ‘Eight Hougoumont heroes,’ (for which RHQ have informed me that their Waterloo Medals will be reinstated) plus the Hougoumont Farmer Antoine Dumonceau and his gardener Guillaume Van Cutsem. 
Thank you everyone…, much appreciated.   …, Iain.    ;)

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The Common Room / Re: Soldier - John Rudd
« on: Sunday 12 November 23 12:42 GMT (UK)  »
The 1841 census should also have him and his battalion...   

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The Common Room / Re: Jasper / James
« on: Monday 26 June 23 17:46 BST (UK)  »
James is the Anglicized version of Jacob, which is Jacobus in Latin, Jacques in French (which I believe is the probably Norman origin of "Jack" in English, not a nickname for John, although it seems to be accepted as that now).

 ;)

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