Ship owners - Sunderland & South Shields

[Westoe]

   My, my but this thread has been very quiet for eight weeks.  Is there nothing to talk about?  Or just too much Christmas?

How about twins?  Anyone want to discuss twins?  Twins are always interesting - and sometimes useful.  They tend to run in families and to manifest in alternate generations.

Since there aren't, to my knowlege, twins in the Thompson line, one wonders about Charles Havelock's girls.  Did they result from the genetic imput of Elizabeth Foster's parents or from that of Grandpa Henry Lee? Do you know any other twins in Lee descendents?

Cheers,
Westoe

[Malcommon]

Hi Julian,

I have some info which may help you,

George Havelock  1688-1749 Clock maker married Mary Barry 1704-1766
Marriage Guisborough 6th Jan 1754


William  1728 Guisborough died 10th Oct 1777 Sunderland shipbuilder, married Anne Longbottom 1728 Sunderland her father Jacob Longbottom

Children

William 1756 2nd Dec. Sunderland died 24June 1836 Hievetree Devon, maried Jane Carter  16th August. 1787.Bishopwearmouth

Jacob 27th Dec 1758 Guisborough Died 7th July , 1825 Guisborough, married Margery Postgate
27th May 1795 Guisborough

Mary 1760 died 1823 married Ralph Wheatley1776 Sunderland Parish church

Dorothy 1761 married Wiliam Huntrods 2nd Sept 1794 Bishopwearmouth

Thomas 20th April 1763, Guisborough died 8th Oct 1845 Darlington Durham married Sophia Louisa Martin 1786

Hannah Nov 1766 Sunderland died 9th Jan 1837 Darlington Durham, married Robert Allen 20th Dec 1792 Newbottle second marriage spouse not known 20th may 1804


ANN HAVELOCK 1770 Sunderland died 5th Sept 1855 married JAMES LEE 8th Jan 1803 Bishopwearmouth

 Sir Henry Havelock  of Lucknow fame was the 4th child of William 1756 and Jane Carter 14th June 1769 Yarm Yorkshire ,Henry was born 5th April 1795 Ford Hall Durham.he died 25th nov 1857 Lucknow, Alimbaga, India.married Hannah Shepherd Marshman 9th Feb 1829 Scrampore, Calcutta.

My 8th greatgrandfather was George 1726 Guisborough the Clock maker,he also had a son George 1726, also a clockmaker,  he married Sarah Walker,1747 Guisborough
 
If I can help further let me know.

Regards Margaret

[Westoe]

Hello Cherielynn,

Here's another for your list of family ships:

brig "Jane", 247 tons

partially-owned in the late 1700's by one of Annie Lee's greatgrandfathers and later partially-owned by one of her grandfathers, which would make them respectively 6G- and 5G- grandfathers to you.

Cheers,
Westoe

[caerfai]

Have found my samuel Kidd who married Mary Jane Small (jarrow) were settlers to Logan Utah.
In 1880 they were already there.
How do we find out how they got there and from whence they sailed?
Thank you.

[jennyM]

Hi
I have just stumbled on this thread whilst googling Havelock & Sunderland.
I have Edward Wharlton/Walton Havelock born 1838 child of George & Frances Havelock who marries an Eliza Carter DOM 1859 Sunderland.
I saw other Havelocks marring Carters on this link and wondered if there was a connection.

Also have John Chapman Lord who married Eliza's sister Mary . John is a shipbroker in 1857 living in Church walk Sunderland wondered if there is any info on him or the Havelocks please?
Best wishes
Jenny

[Westoe]

Jenny wrote:
Also have John Chapman Lord who married Eliza's sister Mary . John is a shipbroker in 1857 living in Church walk Sunderland

Hello Jenny,

Was his father also named John? Did he have a younger brother named William? And another brother George who died in infancy?

Cheers,
Westoe

[jennyM]

Hi Westoe,
No his Father was George Lord & Mother Elizabeth Chapman. John Chapman born 1834, did have a brother George but no William. His Father George had a brother William though.
Best wishes
Jenny

[Westoe]

Hello Jenny,

Sorry then, I haven't any help for you.

Cheers,
Westhoe

[anniemudge]

Hi Westoe,
No his Father was George Lord & Mother Elizabeth Chapman. John Chapman born 1834, did have a brother George but no William. His Father George had a brother William though.
Best wishes
Jenny

Hi Jenny,

Don't suppose your George Lord was born in Sunderland in 1829 and recorded as a shipbroker? (Daughter Emily?)