20th Century Jewish brick wall

[Bookbox]

Is anyone able to tell me how to find these, or even better post links from Ancestry to the correct document?

It’s worth learning how to do this yourself.

For the census, go to the search page for the relevant year (not the whole Census Collection).

1851
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/8860/

If you have a full census reference (as you have here), enter the Piece, Folio and Page as below. Don’t enter anything else – no names or places (in case they are mistranscribed).

[JeremyS]

That's what I did but maybe that's where I went wrong - I also put in their names. I'll try again. Thanks

[sandiep]

dont worry about being a beginner and not knowing how to put things I have been researching about 20 years and still get lost and not too good at links
usually it takes me so long doing look ups that someone else always gets there first
still so long as we all enjoy doing it and the help on here is first rate
so back we go on with the search

[Bookbox]

Also they say Zachariah married Rachael Judah St Luke July 1848. - I was able to find this when searching under Rachel's name but not a marriage index ref under Zachariah's name.

Here’s the index entry for the marriage (I’ve deleted lines for other people on the same page)

Marriages Sep Qtr 1848
JUDA Rachael        St Lukes   2       287
Juda Rachel        St Lukes   2       287
JUDD Rachael        St Lukes   2       287
Judd    Rachel        St Lukes   2       287
Moses Zachariah    St Lukes   2       287
(lots of spelling variants for Rachael, but there will be only one actual marriage registration)

Here’s the transcript ...
https://synagoguescribes.com/blog/person-details/?value=6414
(click on Rachael’s name for her father’s details)

You will get more detail on the full civil registration certificate (from the GRO).

This marriage will have been under the auspices of the Great Synagogue (in the City) and recorded in their register, but with the ceremony probably held at a private venue in Finsbury/St Luke, where there was no proper synagogue at this date.

ADDED - Finsbury was an area where many aspiring middle-class Jewish families lived in the 1830s-40s, en route to moving further into the West End.

[Josephine]

The page after the entry shows for 25 Shaftesbury Av, & that it was filled out by H. Moss! At 22 being the manager, younger than almost everyone there & filling out their census, certainly suggests that the Uncle could have set him up with the job...

Ha, I didn't catch that! It looks like Mr. Moss to me.

[Bookbox]

Then they say Rachael dies 1874 and Zachariah remarries to Elizabeth Leah Connor Mar 1888 Paddington - I can't find docs to support either of these facts.

There are possible index entries, but you won't find the records themselves online.

Deaths Jun 1874
MOSES    Rachel    46    London C.   1c   6

Marriages Mar 1888
Connor    Elizabeth        Paddington  1a   86      
Highlands    Rebecca        Paddington  1a   86      
JENNINGS    Alfred John    Paddington  1a   86      
MOSES    Elizabeth        Paddington  1a   86      
MOSES    Zachariah        Paddington  1a   86   

The above marriage was probably in a register office. Elizabeth may already have been known as Elizabeth Moses, as she is indexed under both surnames.

You'll need the civil certificate for more details, and to compare the name of Zachariah's father with that on the 1848 marriage record.

[JeremyS]

I am finding all the info much easier now, thanks a lot.

A small detail but I noticed that in the 1871 census the page that would have contained Zachariah & Rachael's kids is missing, the files skip from page 1 to page 3.

I am going to get hold of these marriage certificates this week.

[JeremyS]

Then they say Rachael dies 1874 and Zachariah remarries to Elizabeth Leah Connor Mar 1888 Paddington - I can't find docs to support either of these facts.

There are possible index entries, but you won't find the records themselves online.

Deaths Jun 1874
MOSES    Rachel    46    London C.   1c   6

Marriages Mar 1888
Connor    Elizabeth        Paddington  1a   86      
Highlands    Rebecca        Paddington  1a   86      
JENNINGS    Alfred John    Paddington  1a   86      
MOSES    Elizabeth        Paddington  1a   86      
MOSES    Zachariah        Paddington  1a   86   

The above marriage was probably in a register office. Elizabeth may already have been known as Elizabeth Moses, as she is indexed under both surnames.

You'll need the civil certificate for more details, and to compare the name of Zachariah's father with that on the 1848 marriage record.

Yes as ELizabeth & Zachariah had already had several children together that would make sense. And thanks for the incredible knowledge about Finsbury & St Luke's, fascinating!

[sandiep]

the record in Great Synagogue for 22 August 1848

Zacharia Moses (minor) father Benjamin Moses patronymic Zacharia b Binyamin address 112 Houndsditch.
Rachael Juda (minor) father Moses Juda patronymic Rahel b Moshe  address 112 Houndsditch

unfortunately the book has only been transcribed to 1885 so next one isnt here