Farm Owned by Murphys in Armagh

[Murphy616]

Ann Heaney fits what I have found for Francis' mother. And his father was a Patrick Murphy.

[Elwyn Soutter]

Ann Heaney fits what I have found for Francis' mother. And his father was a Patrick Murphy.

Well then, in my opinion this may be the right Francis Murphy birth. Mother Ann Heaney:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1876/03061/2121932.pdf

1876 in Ballynarea, In Co Armagh.

Likely siblings (There may well have been more. Parents married in 1865).


Teresa 5.6.1873
Michael 24.6.74
Patrick 11.1.1879
Bridget 7.4.1883

Household in 1901:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Armagh/Lisletrim/Ballinarea/1023482/

1911:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Lisleitrim/Ballynarea/334438/

Ann Murphy’s death in 1898:


https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1898/05815/4646503.pdf

Patrick Murphy & Ann Heaney’s marriage in Cullyhanna chapel in 1865:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1865/11587/8264157.pdf

Just a gentle hint. You will struggle to build  up an accurate tree if you are not prepared to make the odd purchase to view/obtain certificates to verify information. It is not all on-line free.

[heywood]

Ann Heaney fits what I have found for Francis' mother. And his father was a Patrick Murphy.

If you have found this, it would have helped if you posted.
Credits for Scotlands People are very reasonably priced and getting the relevant certificates would hopefully solve all the speculation.

[Elwyn Soutter]

As Heywood points out, you have rather wasted our time by not providing all the clues, and by not getting the parents names from the Scottish marriage certificate.


The Valuation revision records show that in 1908 Patrick Murphy’s farm was plot 7 in Ballynarea and that it was 2 acres. In 1921 the occupant changed to Patrick Sheridan. I found Patrick Murphy’s death in 1917. Informant was his daughter Mary A. Sheridan. So it looks as though Mary married a Sheridan and the farm passed to that family after Patrick’s death.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1917/05226/4446499.pdf

Mary’s marriage to Edward Sheridan in 1914:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1914/09837/5571743.pdf

The farm today is along a lane from the modern Mullaghduff Rd. From a satellite image it looks to be a large farm or industrial business. Whether any of the buildings from 100 years ago still survive I wouldn’t like to say. Nor do I know who lives there today.

[heywood]

Scotlands People death - is this where you got his mother’s name from?

Francis Murphy 56 yrs mmn Hainy 1933 Camlachie

[Murphy616]

As Heywood points out, you have rather wasted our time by not providing all the clues, and by not getting the parents names from the Scottish marriage certificate.


The Valuation revision records show that in 1908 Patrick Murphy’s farm was plot 7 in Ballynarea and that it was 2 acres. In 1921 the occupant changed to Patrick Sheridan. I found Patrick Murphy’s death in 1917. Informant was his daughter Mary A. Sheridan. So it looks as though Mary married a Sheridan and the farm passed to that family after Patrick’s death.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1917/05226/4446499.pdf

Mary’s marriage to Edward Sheridan in 1914:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1914/09837/5571743.pdf

The farm today is along a lane from the modern Mullaghduff Rd. From a satellite image it looks to be a large farm or industrial business. Whether any of the buildings from 100 years ago still survive I wouldn’t like to say. Nor do I know who lives there today.

This is amazing wow thank you so much. I never intended to waste anyone's time and I'm incredibly grateful for this information!

[heywood]

It is just best to provide what you know or even suspect so it can be checked out, that’s all.

There are some public trees with no information about Francis but here is Michael Murphy’s marriage.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1907/10104/5676367.pdf
Note his residence - Cambuslang. He had several daughters in Scotland, one dying as recently as 2004.

I hope you will be able to confirm all this information when you have checked it all out.

[Murphy616]

Thanks again to everyone who helped me on this.

I have been at my aunty's today and exhausted all possible avenues that we currently have of information.

3 main things I would like to find : Patrick's birth details and then on the other side, Mary Anne Murphy's burial in Scotland. She died in abt1948 and also her parents.

Or any guidance on where to look. I have Ancestry, but I'm afraid I can't find anything concrete. A lot of people seem to have Mary Anne Smyth/Murphy dying in 1938 in Ireland but I know this isn't true as my auntie remembers her from when she was about 8 or 9 and dying in the 40s.

[heywood]

You say Mary Anne Murphy died abt 1948 - have you searched for a likely death in Scotlands People?
That would give her parents but the marriage would also. Did you purchase that?
Did the family live in Govan?

With regards to Patrick, you have his father as Michael so that may help. As he married in a Catholic church, hopefully you might find baptismal records.