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Re: William CARR
« Reply #18 on: Monday 21 March 11 03:59 GMT (UK) »
No mention of any children at all is there...

Is there any birth or death record for William Greenough. If there is and his mothers name is Mary then most likely the latest two articles relate to our Margaret.

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Re: William CARR
« Reply #19 on: Monday 21 March 11 04:04 GMT (UK) »
Electoral Roll
1909/1914/1919
25 Argyle Square
Carlton

Edward Nathan PHILLIPS, gentleman/independant means
Margaret Subena PHILLIPS, home duties

Death
Carlton, Victoria
1921

Edw Nathan PHILLIPS
Age: 81
Father: Harry PHILLIPS
#4866
Buried at Fawkner

Good grief, it is looking as though Edward was related to Ann GATES husband Henry HART! A bit more detective work needed.

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Re: William CARR
« Reply #20 on: Monday 21 March 11 04:09 GMT (UK) »
According to the marriage reg in 1874, Wm GREENOUGH was born in Liverpool and there are a number of births of that name in the period.

However there is this death... :-\

GREENOUGH Wm
Father John Greenough  Mother Mary Stolden
At Collingwood 71 years  1924  Reg#5093


Cheers
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Re: William CARR
« Reply #21 on: Monday 21 March 11 04:18 GMT (UK) »
He is on electoral rolls in Collingwood as a stonemason (which tallies with news reports) with an Elizabeth.  There is a marriage in 1901 to Elizabeth HALIFAX.

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Re: William CARR
« Reply #22 on: Monday 21 March 11 04:18 GMT (UK) »
And

1861 Census shows Wm with parents Mary and John.

Marriages Dec 1845
GREENOUGH John        Liverpool    20/318     
HOLDEN    Mary         Liverpool    20/318
     
Death in Vic
GREENOUGH Mary
Father William HOLDEN  Mother  Kath Fadlkner
At Hotham  82 years  1908  Reg#10075

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Re: William CARR
« Reply #23 on: Monday 21 March 11 04:22 GMT (UK) »
This thread certainly makes 'interesting' reading ;) ::)  Good detective work Debra :D

And it would appear Joseph had other partners as well ::)
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0cbw/

Cheers...and keep up the good work ;D
Cando


And while Jane Keeling was up on charges of stabbing one Joseph Keeling; Ann Gates nee Green was up on a perjury case.
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Re: William CARR
« Reply #24 on: Monday 21 March 11 04:24 GMT (UK) »
According to the marriage reg in 1874, Wm GREENOUGH was born in Liverpool and there are a number of births of that name in the period.

However there is this death... :-\

GREENOUGH Wm
Father John Greenough  Mother Mary Stolden
At Collingwood 71 years  1924  Reg#5093

Cando


Looks like the two other links that Debra posted belong to our Margaret. Looks like the Mum in law was a real piece of work.
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Re: William CARR
« Reply #25 on: Monday 21 March 11 04:27 GMT (UK) »
Great Work Debra.  ;D I wonder if there is anything in this. (The pram perhaps) Though is it is the same woman she seems rather more respectable than we have previously seen. (Ah Just seen Debra's Electoral Roll entry for Edward Phillips - gentleman)

Police Gazette 23 Sep 1885

MARY O'SHEA is charged, on warrant, with stealing a child from Margaret Greenough, 101 Flinders Street East, Melbourne, on the 21st instant. Description :-Irish, about 26 years of age, about 5 feet 2 inches high, very stout build, dark complexion, brown hair, long nose ; wore a black cloak ; lisps when speaking ; no better description. The child's name is Margaret Alleyne. Description:-4 years of age, stout build, tall for her age, fair complexion, short brown hair ; wore dark small-plaid dress, a holland pinafore with red trimming, striped stockings, lace-up boots, and dark-plush felt hat ; calls herself Maggie Phillips. The child belonged to complainant by adoption.-0.5574. 22nd September 1885.

Police Gazette 7 Oct 1885

MARY O'SHEA has been arrested by the Nhill police for stealing a child from Margaret Greenough, and the child has been recovered.- 0.5574. 3rd October 1885.

Seems Mary O'Shea was the girls birth mother.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/18876027?

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Re: William CARR
« Reply #26 on: Monday 21 March 11 04:38 GMT (UK) »
Saw that article and was jsut readign about it. Could just about write a novel with all the goings on with this family.

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